Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/09/2002 01:40 PM Senate L&C

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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                    
             JOINT SENATE LABOR & COMMERCE COMMITTEE                                                                          
          AND HOUSE LABOR & COMMERCE COMMITTEE MEETING                                                                        
                          April 9, 2002                                                                                       
                            1:40 p.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Ben Stevens, Chair                                                                                                      
Senator Alan Austerman                                                                                                          
Senator Loren Leman                                                                                                             
Senator Bettye Davis                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator John Torgerson                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Lisa Murkowski, Chair                                                                                            
Representative Andrew Halcro, Vice Chair                                                                                        
Representative Kevin Meyer                                                                                                      
Representative Norman Rokeberg                                                                                                  
Representative Harry Crawford                                                                                                   
Representative Joe Hayes                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pete Kott                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
OTHER MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                    
Representative Peggy Wilson                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Nursing Workforce Issues                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pat Senner, President                                                                                                       
Alaska Nurses Association                                                                                                       
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dennis Murray                                                                                                               
Administrative Director                                                                                                         
Heritage Place Nursing Facility &                                                                                               
Chairman, Alaska State Hospital and Nursing Home Association                                                                    
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
Ms. Susan Snippen, Director of Nursing                                                                                          
Wildflower Court Nursing Home                                                                                                   
Juneau AK                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Laraine Derr, President and CEO                                                                                             
Alaska State Hospital and Nursing Home Association                                                                              
Juneau AK                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Karen Perdue, Associate Vice President                                                                                      
University of Alaska                                                                                                            
3211 Providence Dr.                                                                                                             
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Vivian Lee                                                                                                                  
Yukon Kuskokwim                                                                                                                 
No address provided                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rebecca Nance-Gamez                                                                                                         
Deputy Commissioner                                                                                                             
Department of Labor & Workforce                                                                                                 
  Development                                                                                                                   
PO Box 21149                                                                                                                    
Juneau, AK 99802-1149                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Theresa Reed                                                                                                                
Alaska Nurses Association                                                                                                       
Providence Hospital                                                                                                             
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ken Simmons                                                                                                                 
Alaska Nurses Association                                                                                                       
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Maggie Flanagan                                                                                                             
Alaska Nurses Association                                                                                                       
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Camille Soleil                                                                                                              
Executive Director                                                                                                              
Alaska Nurses Association                                                                                                       
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Barbara Huff-Tuckness                                                                                                       
Director                                                                                                                        
Governmental and Legislative Affairs                                                                                            
Teamsters Local 959                                                                                                             
Juneau AK                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Angelina Zinski                                                                                                             
Public Health Nurse                                                                                                             
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Nancy Davis                                                                                                                 
Chief, Public Health Nursing                                                                                                    
Department of Health and Social Services                                                                                        
POB 110611                                                                                                                      
Juneau AK 99811-0611                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Nicholas Koletti                                                                                                            
Medical Director                                                                                                                
Alaska Psychiatric Institute                                                                                                    
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Tina DeLapp                                                                                                                 
Director, School of Nursing                                                                                                     
University of Alaska                                                                                                            
Anchorage AK                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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CO-CHAIR BEN STEVENS called the Senate  and House Labor & Commerce                                                            
Committees to order at 1:40 p.m.  Committee members present at the                                                              
call to  order were  Senators Austerman,  Davis and Chair  Stevens                                                              
and Representatives  Halcro, Meyer, Crawford and  Chair Murkowski.                                                              
Representative   Wilson  was   also   present.  Co-Chair   Stevens                                                              
announced  the  committees  would  hear from  individuals  in  the                                                              
nursing  profession  about  issues facing  the  nursing  workforce                                                              
environment, the  educational challenges and the  shortages in the                                                              
workplace at this meeting. He hoped  committee members could bring                                                              
forth solutions  to the  nursing shortage problem  as a  result of                                                              
this meeting.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR LISA MURKOWSKI, House Labor  and Commerce Committee, said                                                              
she  appreciated  the invitation  to  join  the Senate  Labor  and                                                              
Commerce   Committee  to   participate  in   this  overview.   She                                                              
commented,  "The nursing shortage  has been  identified as  one of                                                              
those that is acute and we need to address it…"                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. PATRICIA SENNER, President of the Alaska Nurses Association,                                                                
told members she had been a nurse for 20 years. She stated:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     A March  28 headline in  the Anchorage Daily  News reads                                                                   
     'Providence  Diverts Victims.'  The article  goes on  to                                                                   
     state that  the Anchorage  hospitals routinely  tell 911                                                                   
     dispatchers  that  they  can't   accept  more  emergency                                                                   
     patients  usually because they  don't have the  critical                                                                   
     care beds  or the nursing  staff for them.  This article                                                                   
     highlights  one  of  the  current  effects  the  nursing                                                                   
     shortage  is having  on the  delivery  of healthcare  in                                                                   
     Anchorage and Alaska.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The   nursing  shortage   has  its   roots  in   several                                                                   
     converging factors, both demographic  and environmental.                                                                   
     The  average  age of  an  RN  in Alaska  is  45.1  years                                                                   
     compared to  43.3 years nationally.  In the  state 71.6%                                                                   
     of the  registered nurses  are over the  age of  40. I'd                                                                   
     like to  refer you  to this  graph from [indisc.]  shows                                                                   
     the  age distribution  of registered  nurses and  here's                                                                   
     this big area in the middle  that is the age 41 - 50 and                                                                   
     that's not the  way this curve ought to look.  The curve                                                                   
     ought to  be high in  the 31 -  40s and then  taper off.                                                                   
     You'll also  notice that  the nurses age  group 51  - 60                                                                   
     represent half  of those, age 45  - 50. So, in  the next                                                                   
     10 years  half of the  nurses working now  will probably                                                                   
     leave the field.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The aging of the nursing workforce  reflects in part the                                                                   
     age distribution of the state's  population, but it also                                                                   
     reflects  the fact  that fewer  young  people, women  in                                                                   
     particular, are  going into nursing. When I  was a child                                                                   
     I would eagerly await the arrival  of Time Magazine so I                                                                   
     could  read  the Medicine  Section.  In those  days  the                                                                   
     family  expectation was  that  I would  become a  nurse.                                                                   
     Nowadays,  the  expectation  would probably  be  that  I                                                                   
     would become  a doctor. Today, women in  particular have                                                                   
     a greater  number of  career opportunities available  to                                                                   
     them.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     In the  1990s there was  a concerted movement  by health                                                                   
     insurance entities,  and it  continues today, to  try to                                                                   
     contain  the rising  cost of health  care by  decreasing                                                                   
     the  reimbursement  rates  and  by  shortening  hospital                                                                   
     length  of  stays.  This resulted  in  the  patients  in                                                                   
     hospitals  being sicker and,  therefore, requiring  more                                                                   
     nursing services. At the same  time, hospitals responded                                                                   
     to the decrease in reimbursement  by reducing the number                                                                   
     of  RNs and  replacing  them with  unlicensed  assistive                                                                   
     personnel. Nurses  found themselves having to  take care                                                                   
     of a  greater number of  patients who were  also sicker.                                                                   
     This led to many unsafe situations  and nurses would end                                                                   
     their shift totally exhausted  and worried that they had                                                                   
     not  provided adequate  care  for their  patients.  Over                                                                   
     time,  the stress of  the situation  led many nurses  to                                                                   
     leave the profession.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     In  the 1990s when  nurses complained  about the  unsafe                                                                   
     nature  of   their  work  environment,   the  employer's                                                                   
     response  was often,  'Take it  or leave  it. There  are                                                                   
     plenty more nurses where you  came from.' This obviously                                                                   
     is  no   longer  the  case.  Another   general  employer                                                                   
     response was, 'If you work smarter,  you can handle more                                                                   
     patients.' The problem with  that is that a nurse cannot                                                                   
     be in two  or three places at once. The  patient in Room                                                                   
     306 is experiencing  chest pain, the patient  in 308 has                                                                   
     serious bleeding  from a surgical wound and  the patient                                                                   
     in 309 has become confused and  is trying to rip out all                                                                   
     his  tubes.  Nurses  find themselves  with  just  barely                                                                   
     enough time to take care of  the technical side of their                                                                   
     responsibilities  and have  little time  left to  assist                                                                   
     patients and  their families with the emotional  side of                                                                   
     their  illness.  One nurse  told  me recently  that  she                                                                   
     hardly has time to talk with her patients any more.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Hospital  nursing  is physically  very  demanding  work.                                                                   
     From the  time you come to  work until your  shift ends,                                                                   
     you're   usually  in   a  constant   dead  run.   Nurses                                                                   
     frequently work  12-hour shifts and consider  themselves                                                                   
     lucky to get a lunch break.  There has been considerable                                                                   
     press about the increase in  obesity in America and that                                                                   
     fact influences the physical  demands of the health care                                                                   
     workers.  The lifting, turning  and bending required  to                                                                   
     care  for patients  leads  to joint  deterioration  over                                                                   
     time. Hospital  nursing is exhausting work  and this why                                                                   
     most RNs  who work in the  hospital retire some  time in                                                                   
     their mid-50s  rather than in their mid-60s.  This means                                                                   
     that  the nursing  shortage  that we  feel  now is  only                                                                   
     going to get worse over the next 5 to 10 years.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Further  compounding the  problem is  the fact that  the                                                                   
     general  population is  aging. The  dreaded words,  'the                                                                   
     incidence of  this increases over  the age of  40' means                                                                   
     that a greater  percentage of the population  is in need                                                                   
     of medical services and, therefore,  nursing services. I                                                                   
     recently had  a retired office  nurse come up to  me and                                                                   
     say, 'Pat,  you have to  do something about  the nursing                                                                   
     shortage,  because I  was pulled  out  of retirement  to                                                                   
     work because they couldn't find  anyone else to work and                                                                   
     I'm just getting too old for this.'                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     An immediate  response to the  nursing shortage  by some                                                                   
     employers  has been  to force nurses  to work  mandatory                                                                   
     overtime. People  who are testifying after  me are going                                                                   
     to  talk more about  that particular  issue. Nurses  are                                                                   
     already  working a  lot of voluntary  overtime, but  the                                                                   
     nurse  who  has  already  worked   a  12-hour  shift  is                                                                   
     obviously  not safe  to have  him or her  work 24  hours                                                                   
     straight.  This   only  serves  to  lead   to  injuries,                                                                   
     mistakes   and  earlier   exit   of   nurses  from   the                                                                   
     profession.  Mandatory  overtime and  the  nurse-patient                                                                   
     ratios are the two main issues  the nurses at Providence                                                                   
     went out on strike on over three years ago.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The Alaska  Nurses Association  and the American  Nurses                                                                   
     Association  feel  that  the  solution  to  the  nursing                                                                   
     shortage is twofold.  The first part of the  solution is                                                                   
     to  work  to  interest more  young  people  in  becoming                                                                   
     nurses and  provide them with educational  opportunities                                                                   
     and  funding. The  second part  of this  solution is  to                                                                   
     improve the work environment  so the existing nurses can                                                                   
     continue  to  work as  long  as  possible and  that  new                                                                   
     nurses   who   train   don't    leave   the   profession                                                                   
     prematurely.  Some of  these  solutions the  legislature                                                                   
     can  help us  with  directly and  some  require a  joint                                                                   
     effort by  the community, the health care  providers and                                                                   
     the nursing profession.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Specific  recommendations we  think the legislature  can                                                                   
     assist us with are as follows:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     After the  budget shortfall has been  successfully dealt                                                                   
     with,  I meant  Representative  Peggy  Wilson's HB  449,                                                                   
     which would  provide for tuition loan  reimbursement for                                                                   
     nurses who work  in Alaska - with the  budget shortfall,                                                                   
     we would  suggest investigating doing this  jointly with                                                                   
     employers,  looking into providing  grants to  employers                                                                   
     or entities  such as the  Nurses Association  to provide                                                                   
     post-grad specialty  training in  areas such as  ER, ICU                                                                   
     and  OR   nursing.  Many  states  have   already  passed                                                                   
     legislation prohibiting  mandatory overtime.  Alaska may                                                                   
     want to  consider similar legislation. Other  states are                                                                   
     beginning to  pass legislation mandating  specific nurse                                                                   
     patient  ratios. We have  some reservations about  doing                                                                   
     this,  particularly   since  we   have  so  many   small                                                                   
     hospitals.  The key  is really  mandating certain  nurse                                                                   
     patient ratios based on what  is called acuity [indisc.]                                                                   
     illness level of the patients,  rather than the specific                                                                   
     name of the unit in which they are residing.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Finally, support  strong legislation and  regulations in                                                                   
     workplace safety.  I know there's  someone after  me who                                                                   
     [indisc.] specific  to this area. In  particular, nurses                                                                   
     and   other  health   care   providers  need   ergonomic                                                                   
     regulations  related to lifting.  The population  is not                                                                   
     going to get any less heavy.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     The  hospitals,  communities  and nurses  need  to  work                                                                   
     together   to  address   the  nursing   shortage  in   a                                                                   
     meaningful  way. We  look forward  to  working with  the                                                                   
     legislature and  employers and recruiting people  to the                                                                   
     profession  and creating  a work  environment that  will                                                                   
     provide them with a long and satisfying career.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DENNIS   MURRAY,  Administrative  Director,   Heritage  Place                                                              
Nursing Facility,  and current chair of the Alaska  State Hospital                                                              
and Nursing  Home Association (ASHNHA)  said and that  in general,                                                              
everyone understands  the problems; they now have to  come up with                                                              
solutions. The  nursing shortage has  been identified as  the most                                                              
critical  employee shortage  in the  state. ASHNHA  has copies  of                                                              
reports that offer  recommendations. ASHNHA has  been working with                                                              
the University  Task Force and UA  Vice President Karen  Perdue on                                                              
ways to increase  the number of nurse graduates.  He suggested the                                                              
legislature   support  Representative   Wilson's  legislation   on                                                              
tuition forgiveness and funding.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. SUSAN SNIPPEN,  Director of Nursing, Wildflower  Court Nursing                                                              
Home, said  Wildflower Court is  a 44-bed, long-term  care skilled                                                              
nursing facility  that has been  affected by the  nursing shortage                                                              
over  the years.  For example,  three  full-time registered  nurse                                                              
positions have  gone unfilled for  the past two  years. Wildflower                                                              
Court has  addressed  that problem  for the short  term by  hiring                                                              
temporary employees  from agencies. That is an  expensive solution                                                              
for a  not-for-profit agency because  all additional  expenses are                                                              
paid  directly from  the  services provided  to  residents in  the                                                              
facility.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Wildflower Court's greatest hope  to resolve the nurse shortage is                                                              
the  improving nursing  program  at the  University  of Alaska  in                                                              
Anchorage and  Juneau. She  has appealed  to educators  to promote                                                              
long-term  care nursing  as a career  rather than  as a  fall-back                                                              
position in light of Alaska's aging population.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LARAINE DERR,  President  of the  Alaska  State Hospital  and                                                              
Nursing Home  Association, said  ASHNHA has  been looking  at this                                                              
problem for  some time. Three years  ago ASHNHA convened  a summit                                                              
to  talk about  the nursing  workforce. The  Alaska Department  of                                                              
Labor and  Workforce Development  (DOLWD)  has provided a  $30,000                                                              
grant  to begin  to  address staff  development  of the  different                                                              
levels of  nursing and a  $30,000 to conduct  a summit to  be held                                                              
next week to chart the course for  the next decade. ASHNHA is also                                                              
working  with  the task  force  at  the  University of  Alaska  to                                                              
educate more nursing students. She  pointed out it is important to                                                              
educate   children  in   the   earlier  grades   about   different                                                              
professions  because studies  show  that by  the  time they  reach                                                              
fifth grade,  students are thinking  about what kind of  work they                                                              
want to do as adults.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. KAREN PERDUE, Associate Vice  President, University of Alaska,                                                              
said she  has been focusing  on health  care issues. She  gave the                                                              
committee  a  report [overhead  slides]  on  the task  force  that                                                              
finished  its  work yesterday.  The  task  force's charge  was  to                                                              
describe  what the University  could  do to help  the health  care                                                              
industry  address  the current  and  projected need  for  facility                                                              
based nursing.  She pointed  out the nursing  shortage is  in more                                                              
than facilities  but because  the University  could sit  down with                                                              
ASHNHA in  a quick fashion, it  focused on resolving the  need for                                                              
facility based nurses.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
She  said  about  400  nurse  vacancies  in  Alaskan  health  care                                                              
facilities were reported  in a 2001 survey and that  about half of                                                              
the nurses  work in  hospitals and nursing  homes. DOL  projects a                                                              
demand of about 220 additional nurses  through 2008. These figures                                                              
take  into account  a  40% retirement  rate  and a  40% growth  in                                                              
demand  over the  next  decade. The  causes  of  the shortage  are                                                              
complex.  Alaska's  nursing  workforce  is  aging.  Nursing  is  a                                                              
physically  demanding  and stressful  profession  and nurses  have                                                              
other career options.  Nurses are in demand because  they are very                                                              
talented  people.  The need  for  nursing services  has  increased                                                              
because of  the aging  population and  community care.  She added,                                                              
"There is a crisis and the situation  is deteriorating on a pretty                                                              
rapid basis here."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PERDUE  showed the  committee  a  graph  of the  aging  nurse                                                              
workforce nationwide and said that  Alaska's workforce is a little                                                              
bit older. She said increased salaries  help with recruitment; the                                                              
mean  salary  in  Alaska  is  about  $25  per  hour  now.  Nursing                                                              
graduates  should  double  by 2006  and  even  though that  is  an                                                              
ambitious goal,  it will not  oversupply the market.  The existing                                                              
nursing program  at the University  is very strong, but  it should                                                              
be expanded  to include innovation  and flexible  nursing options,                                                              
including distance delivery, because  not all students can come to                                                              
Anchorage. The University also want  to make sure students can get                                                              
credit for the  number of years of service. The  University cannot                                                              
tackle  this problem  alone.  It has  been  talking with  industry                                                              
representatives about how to finance  the increases and believe it                                                              
has formed a very good partnership so far.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The  University believes  students need  financial assistance  and                                                              
are often unable to attend non-stop,  because they have to stop to                                                              
work. Finally, she  said workplace issues exist, but  if the focus                                                              
is  on them,  the demand  for nurses  will  not be  met. An  aging                                                              
workforce  means  they have  to  get  young people  into  nursing.                                                              
Financial assistance will not only  help students get started, but                                                              
to finish school.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PERDUE  said  to  double  the  nursing  program  output,  the                                                              
University will have to work hard  to get expansion funding. Right                                                              
now it spends  about $3 million  per year on nursing  education in                                                              
the  state; next  year it  will need  about $1.2  million more  to                                                              
achieve this same  goal. The University is talking  to industry to                                                              
get help.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The  University  needs  to  clear the  waiting  list  of  eligible                                                              
students  wanting to get  into the  program. If  it can  clear the                                                              
waiting list,  it can begin to  get graduates on the  street. Like                                                              
everyone else,  the University needs  to adjust faculty  salaries.                                                              
She informed members that not only  is the University doubling the                                                              
size of the  program in Anchorage  and doing a summer  program, it                                                              
is  also  creating either  a  new  or expanded  program  in  seven                                                              
separate   campus  sights,   including   Bethel,  Kenai,   Juneau,                                                              
Ketchikan, Sitka, Fairbanks and Kodiak.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PERDUE  explained   that  the  University   needs  help  from                                                              
hospitals  on  critical  health   issues  and  relies  heavily  on                                                              
Providence,  API,  the Alaska  Native  Medical Center  and  Alaska                                                              
Regional  Hospital. The  hospitals have  been very gracious  about                                                              
helping to  educate students.  She showed members  a slide  of the                                                              
University's  costs, including  the  one time  and ongoing  costs.                                                              
[Indisc.]                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  VIVIAN  LEE,  Yukon  Kuskokwim,   said  she  has  52  nursing                                                              
positions  in  the  hospital  and  18  vacancies.  They  have  six                                                              
additional  RN   positions  in  village  operations   and  two  in                                                              
behavioral  health (which are  filled). She  noted, "Nursing  is a                                                              
demanding  career  requiring  knowledge,   critical  thinking  and                                                              
requires many physical skills…"                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. LEE thought students should be  exposed to health care careers                                                              
in grammar and  high schools. She asked for increased  funding for                                                              
nursing  and  a  scholarship  program  with a  payback  offer  for                                                              
staying in the state to get people  into the program. Rural nurses                                                              
need to be trained in their area so they can stay.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. REBECCA  NANCE-GAMEZ, Deputy  Director, DOLWD, commented  on a                                                              
slide  presentation called  "Registered Nurses  Profile" from  the                                                              
department's    Development/Research    and   Analysis    Section.                                                              
Registered nurses  include all nurses who obtain  training through                                                              
a 2, 3, 4 year or masters level program. She said:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Although the  effects of supply and demand  mismatch are                                                                   
     felt throughout the state, rural  Alaska is particularly                                                                   
     vulnerable.  In  Alaska's rural  communities  where  job                                                                   
     opportunities  are  scarce,   high  skilled,  high  wage                                                                   
     registered  nurse positions often  go to outsiders.  The                                                                   
     aging of the baby boom generation  fueled an increase in                                                                   
     the need  for quality health  care. The aging of  the RN                                                                   
     workforce  will make it  increasingly difficult  to meet                                                                   
     this need.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Exhibit 1  shows that in 1998  the estimated employment  level for                                                              
nurses was  3,900, one  of the largest  occupations in  the state.                                                              
Alaska employers  routinely import  nurses from  the Lower  48 and                                                              
for abroad. In  2000, 14.8% of nurses working in  Alaska were non-                                                              
residents of the state.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Exhibit 2  shows that in 2001,  over 7,000 Alaskans  were licensed                                                              
RNs,  more than  the  number working  in  the  profession. The  RN                                                              
profession  continues to  be  dominated by  women.  In 1999  women                                                              
comprised 91.7% of Alaska's nursing workforce.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The  top  private  sector  health  care  employers  in  2000  were                                                              
Providence Alaska  Medical Center, the Inner Health  System, which                                                              
is  formerly Lutheran  Health  Systems  of Fairbanks,  and  Alaska                                                              
Regional Hospital in Anchorage.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Based on  the most recent  occupational forecasts for  nurses from                                                              
1998  -  2008,  employment  in  the   broad  nursing  category  is                                                              
projected  to grow  nearly  40% and  much  faster  than all  other                                                              
average occupations and the average  growth is 16.6% (exhibits 1 &                                                              
4). Over 45% of  nurses working in Alaska in the  first quarter of                                                              
2000 will reach retirement age in the next 15 years.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
In addition  to a faster than  average growth rate, the  number of                                                              
nurses needed in  Alaska to fill new jobs resulting  from industry                                                              
growth  will   increase  by   nearly  1,600.  Alaska's   statewide                                                              
employment for nurses in 2008 is  projected to reach nearly 5,500.                                                              
If the  2008 projections  hold true, nursing  will be  the largest                                                              
single health care  occupation and the seventh  largest occupation                                                              
in the  state. The occupation side  of nurses compares  with other                                                              
large  size  occupations  such  as   bookkeeping,  accounting  and                                                              
auditing, clerks, sales supervisors and managers.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The  nursing  shortage  is  not just  an  Alaskan  problem.  Using                                                              
national data,  the U.S. Department  of Labor has  determined that                                                              
nursing  is  a  shortage  occupation and  that  fact  resulted  in                                                              
special provisions for nursing under  the Immigration Act of 1990.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
In 2000, the mean hourly wage for  nurses in Alaska was $25.08 per                                                              
hour and nationally it's $22.31 per  hour. In Washington State the                                                              
mean  hourly wage  of  nurses was  $24.22.  In the  year 1999  the                                                              
average male  nurse in Alaska earned  $43,000 per year and  in the                                                              
same year female nurses earned approximately $37,000.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. THERESA REED,  Alaska Nurses Association, said she  is a staff                                                              
nurse in  critical care  at Providence  Hospital. She described  a                                                              
typical day  in her  unit. Some nurses  have been working  16-hour                                                              
shifts  and on  the day  that a  patient was  diverted to  another                                                              
hospital, Providence  had two beds  open but was 12  nurses short.                                                              
Six nurses  are leaving over the  next six weeks due to  wages and                                                              
benefits. In a ten-day period in  her unit alone, 12 nurses worked                                                              
15 shifts of overtime.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
A  lot  of  the  experienced  nurses   are  leaving  and  this  is                                                              
frustrating  because they  do a lot  of the  teaching. One  of the                                                              
major reasons  they are leaving is  because they are  primary care                                                              
givers  for   everyone  but  they   have  no  health   care  after                                                              
retirement. Another reason is poor  wages; they haven't received a                                                              
raise  in over  six  years.  Another  reason is  injuries,  either                                                              
repetitive motion back injuries or  assaults from patients. Two of                                                              
her staff need to have surgery because  of this. There is a lot of                                                              
chronic pain and  no ergonomic evaluations. It's  not atypical for                                                              
a nurse to have to lift a 250 lb. patient.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
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MS. REED said  that stress is another big problem;  the work loads                                                              
are  heavier and  there  are less  resources  available. It's  not                                                              
unusual to get no break for 12 hours.  Nurses are exposed to a lot                                                              
of violence and  there is no flexibility as far  as lifting weight                                                              
goes.  If you can't  lift it,  you can't  work at  the bedside  no                                                              
matter how  much knowledge you have.  The use of  protective latex                                                              
gloves  is  another issue  because  many  nurses are  allergic  to                                                              
latex.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
She said  overtime isn't mandatory,  but there have been  a number                                                              
of instances with their three dialysis  nurses who could not leave                                                              
when their  shift ended.  Some of the  major fears for  nurses are                                                              
not being able  to care for themselves after they  retire, getting                                                              
a disease,  making a mistake because  they are too busy  that they                                                              
can't catch everything,  having to work overtime and  not having a                                                              
stable and predictable home life.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  REED said  nurses do  love their  profession,  but they  need                                                              
better  ergonomic   standards,  lift   teams,  better   retirement                                                              
packages,  health  care  after  retirement  and  better  pay.  She                                                              
cautioned the  state needs to encourage  people to come  into this                                                              
profession.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. KEN  SIMMONS  said he works  in a  hospital,  and this is  the                                                              
second  nursing  shortage  he  has been  through.  The  other  One                                                              
occurred in the  late 70s and early 80s. Some  of the similarities                                                              
are  increased   patient  to  nurse  ratio,  frequent   calls  for                                                              
increased shifts,  increased fatigue and, over the  last couple of                                                              
years, decreasing morale among the staff.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Some of  the differences involve  the educational system.  When he                                                              
graduated in 1978 from Ohio, he graduated  in a class of 120. Last                                                              
year he visited the same school and  the graduating class had less                                                              
than 20  students. The applicants  just weren't there and  when he                                                              
attended, there was  a waiting list. There were  diploma programs,                                                              
associate  degree  programs,  and   a  baccalaureate  program.  He                                                              
understands  that  not  just  all of  the  diploma  programs  have                                                              
disappeared, but  some of the  associated degree programs  have as                                                              
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There is  an aging nursing  workforce with  the average  age being                                                              
47. Patient  acuity is higher,  which makes  the job of  the nurse                                                              
much  more difficult.  More nurses  are needed  rather than  less.                                                              
Temporary nurses sometimes  come in, but the down  side to that is                                                              
that they get comparatively little  orientation to the hospital. A                                                              
typical  new  nurse  at  a  hospital gets  two  to  six  weeks  of                                                              
orientation and  training and a traveling  nurse may get  hours or                                                              
less before they start work.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Administration is providing an in-service  class on how registered                                                              
nurses can  delegate more  of the skilled  tasks to their  nursing                                                              
assistants,  but the  bottom  line to  that  is the  nurse who  is                                                              
delegating that  task is still responsible  for seeing that  it is                                                              
carried out appropriately.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The bottom  line is the safety and  well being of the  patient and                                                              
creative ways  need to be found  to enhance that. As  the workload                                                              
gets harder,  nurses get  burned out and  more of them  will leave                                                              
the workforce as they have a lot of other options.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MAGGIE  FLANAGAN, Alaska Nurses  Association, said she  has 25                                                              
years of experience working in health  care and 20 years as an RN.                                                              
She said  that health care  has become  one of the  most dangerous                                                              
industries in the  United States. According to the  U.S. Bureau of                                                              
Labor Statistics,  it is now more  dangerous to work in  a nursing                                                              
home  than  in  mining or  construction.  She  commented,  "In  an                                                              
industry already in crisis, we are  losing nurses at a frightening                                                              
rate to occupational illnesses and injuries."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
She said that  in the last decade reports are  doubling of illness                                                              
and injury  rates in  the health  care industry.  She noted,  "All                                                              
Alaskans   are  effected   as  health   care   consumers  by   the                                                              
consequences  of  poor  working  conditions  in  the  health  care                                                              
industry."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FLANAGAN  said that  training  and  recruiting of  nurses  is                                                              
important in  solving the nursing  shortage, but retention  is the                                                              
key.  This  can be  accomplished  with  a  safe and  healthy  work                                                              
environment.  Only about  half of Alaska's  registered nurses  are                                                              
working as nurses and the Alaska  Department of Labor is proposing                                                              
a general safety  and health program, which addresses  three major                                                              
occupational hazards: work place  violence, indoor air quality and                                                              
ergonomics. Two-thirds  of all non-fatal workplace  assaults occur                                                              
in health care facilities. It is  estimated that 38% of all nurses                                                              
will experience  a back injury at  some point in their  career. It                                                              
is also  estimated that  12% of nurses  are leaving nursing  every                                                              
year due to these muscular skeletal  injuries. Nurses and cleaning                                                              
personnel in  health care facilities are  in the top ten  list for                                                              
occupational asthma.  Alaska nurses desperately need  a strong and                                                              
protective  health  and  safety   program  with  full  legislative                                                              
support.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.   CAMILLE   SOLEIL,   Executive    Director,   Alaska   Nurses                                                              
Association, read  a letter from  Marjorie Stock, a  critical care                                                              
nurse  in Anchorage.  She  was unavailable  today  because of  her                                                              
schedule. The letter reads:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     I have  worked in the  critical care nursing  area since                                                                   
     1980. During this period I have  weathered other nursing                                                                   
     shortages  in  many  other states  and  hospitals.  This                                                                   
     shortage  is different.  As  a member  of the  Anchorage                                                                   
     Chapter  of the  American Association  of Critical  Care                                                                   
     Nurses, I  will take the opportunity to  discuss patient                                                                   
     care issues with my peers at  other Anchorage hospitals.                                                                   
     Each facility is experiencing  a similar nursing crisis.                                                                   
     I'll direct  my comments to  the critical area,  because                                                                   
     that's where I have first-hand knowledge.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     We have  a critical shortage  of registered  nurses that                                                                   
     have  critical   care  training  and/or   certification.                                                                   
     Hospitals are  staffing intensive care units  with newly                                                                   
     trained  nurses  and  nurses lacking  in  critical  care                                                                   
     education  and   skills.  In  many  cases,   experienced                                                                   
     critical care  nurses will be  able to mentor  these new                                                                   
     nurses, which  is not always  possible due to  increased                                                                   
     demand for experienced nurses.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Affiliate  services have been  cut drastically  over the                                                                   
     past few  years in an effort  to cut health  care costs.                                                                   
     In addition to [indisc.], the  intensive care nurse must                                                                   
     perform  duties   formerly  accomplished   by  [indisc.]                                                                   
     pharmacy,    lab,   housekeeping,   physical    therapy,                                                                   
     respiratory  therapy, social  services,  IV teams,  lift                                                                   
     and  transport  teams  and   maintenance.  In  addition,                                                                   
     computer charting has taken  the nurse further away from                                                                   
     the  bedside.  In  an effort  to  make  everything  look                                                                   
     perfect on  paper, we've lost  the quality time  to care                                                                   
     for patients,  our whole reason  for being there  in the                                                                   
     first place.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Mandatory  overtime has been  used to  try to serve  the                                                                   
     community [indisc.]  like closing the emergency  room to                                                                   
     critical  patients.  More critical  care  beds will  not                                                                   
     solve  this problem;  we  need [indisc.]  nurses.  Newly                                                                   
     graduated nurses  are not being  mentored as  they enter                                                                   
     the workplace.  It takes years  to develop the  critical                                                                   
     thinking  [indisc.]  necessary  for the  intensive  care                                                                   
     patients.  These new  RNs will  soon burn  out and  seek                                                                   
     jobs  out  of  acute  care  or  enter  different  fields                                                                   
     altogether. Introducing clinical  nurse specialists into                                                                   
     intensive  care units  would  go far  to alleviate  this                                                                   
     problem.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Retention of  the experienced critical care  nurse is an                                                                   
     area  that has been  greatly overlooked.  As the  demand                                                                   
     placed on them becomes impossible,  [indisc.} where they                                                                   
     are not  faced with life  and death decision  every day.                                                                   
     An expert critical  care nurse I know just  told me last                                                                   
     week  that she  now feels that  a huge  weight has  been                                                                   
     lifted off  her shoulders.  She left my  ICU for  a less                                                                   
     acute care position. The problem  is multi-faceted and I                                                                   
     do not have all the answers,  but if any of you has been                                                                   
     a  patient or  has had  a family  member  in a  hospital                                                                   
     recently,  you've undoubtedly  seen some  of the  things                                                                   
     I've described. When there's  only one critical care bed                                                                   
     open  in   the  City  of  Anchorage  and   this  happens                                                                   
     frequently,  it is  not good for  anyone. Remember  it's                                                                   
     not the  beds, it's  the lack  of critical care  trained                                                                   
     RNs that is the problem.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SOLEIL  agreed  that  the  issue  of  mandatory  overtime  is                                                              
serious. It endangers patients and  encourages qualified nurses to                                                              
drop out of the field of nursing.  Several states including Maine,                                                              
Minnesota, New  Jersey, Oregon and Washington have  already passed                                                              
statutes addressing mandatory overtime.  She stated, "Alaska needs                                                              
to  join  these states  in  our  campaign  to attract  and  retain                                                              
qualified nurses."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
She  said committee  packets  contain a  statement  issued by  the                                                              
Alaska Nurses Association  opposing the use of  mandatory overtime                                                              
as  a  staffing  tool.  Another   solution  would  be  to  examine                                                              
[indisc.] hospital,  [indisc.] specifically  focused on  [indisc.]                                                              
empowering   nurses   in   the   decision-making   process.   This                                                              
certification  is  available through  AMCC  and  has a  very  high                                                              
retention rate for those hospitals that use it.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARBARA HUFF-TUCKNESS, Director,  Governmental and Legislative                                                              
Affairs, Teamsters Local 959, said  the Teamsters represent public                                                              
health nurses  who work  for the  city as  well as [indisc.].  She                                                              
said the shortage  has different impacts on smaller  hospitals and                                                              
larger ones. Nurses  have to be more multi-skilled,  which costs a                                                              
smaller facility more  to bring them in. She suggested  setting up                                                              
some sort  of a  calling hall for  nurses in  the state.  A second                                                              
issue  is  the   rapidly  aging  nursing  workforce.   Another  is                                                              
providing  an orientation  opportunity in  the smaller  hospitals,                                                              
especially for new  nurses. Another problem in  small hospitals is                                                              
a low census  will result in sending nurses home,  which will make                                                              
their paycheck inconsistent. [INDISC.]                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. ANGELIA ZINSLI, Public Health  Nurse, said she was speaking on                                                              
behalf  of  the  registered  nurses  and  nurse  practitioners  in                                                              
Anchorage  and that  their clinic  is short staffed.   The  public                                                              
health  system  in  Alaska relies  upon  nurse  practitioners  and                                                              
registered nurses  to promote and  maintain Alaska's  health. They                                                              
are increasingly  dependent on  state and  federal grants  to fund                                                              
services  to people  in their communities  who  have little  or no                                                              
access to  health care. They provide  the same high level  of care                                                              
with less funding and fewer physicians every year.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. ZINSLI said  that many times when a position  comes open, they                                                              
don't have qualified applicants,  primarily because of the failure                                                              
of adequate monetary  compensation and leave time.  Some positions                                                              
stay open  for an  extended period  of time  or become  eliminated                                                              
completely in  order to maintain  core services with  budget cuts.                                                              
Nurse practitioners  and public health  RNs must be prepared  at a                                                              
minimum  at  the  baccalaureate  level.  Nurse  practitioners  are                                                              
required  to  be  prepared  at  the  Masters  level  and  maintain                                                              
national certification.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
She  stated that  nursing  is a  highly  respected profession  and                                                              
should  be  compensated   as  any  other  profession   with  equal                                                              
educational  and  licensing requirements,  regardless  of  gender.                                                              
Additional options for nursing recruitment  and retention would be                                                              
to include tuition  reimbursement for nursing students  as well as                                                              
tuition reimbursement for nurses returning to college.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NANCY DAVIS,  Chief,  Public  Health Nursing,  Department  of                                                              
Health and Social  Services, said she has been  a registered nurse                                                              
for 33  years and has  worked in public  health nursing for  31 of                                                              
those.  She has  been a  resident  of the  state for  the past  22                                                              
years. She  supported the concerns  expressed by others  about how                                                              
the nursing shortage in Alaska is getting worse. She remarked:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     When a shortage  erodes services one by one  and reduces                                                                   
     access  to health  services and  information, it  leaves                                                                   
     our   population   more  vulnerable   to   disease   and                                                                   
     disability. It  is less of a spotlight issue,  but it is                                                                   
     a  crisis   that  looms  for   our  future   health  and                                                                   
     prosperity.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
She said  there are about 190  nurses in the department  that work                                                              
for the  state as nurses.  Some of the  job titles do  not include                                                              
the word  "nurse." They  work in  over 30  communities across  the                                                              
state in  criminal detention  facilities,  the Division of  Family                                                              
and  Youth   Services,   social  work  offices   and  the   Alaska                                                              
Psychiatric  Institute.  The Division  of  Public  Health has  the                                                              
largest number of nurses in the department  with about 127 nurses.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
She said that a  few years ago they had an average  4.6 months per                                                              
vacancy and  they thought that was  pretty bad, but now  after two                                                              
years, vacancies  average 7.8  months. Finding  nurses to  work in                                                              
some of the  more remote locations  is also an issue.  She pointed                                                              
out that in the  public health nursing workforce,  18 nurses could                                                              
retire today  based on age and  length of service. 49  nurses will                                                              
need to be replaced because of age  and leaving the workforce over                                                              
the next 5  to 7 years. They  are finding that most  public health                                                              
nurses  are being  hired  at the  entry  level,  which means  they                                                              
haven't had any  public health nursing experience and  will need a                                                              
fair amount of training and orientation  time in order to get them                                                              
to a  level of independent  functioning expected of  public health                                                              
nurses.  This  is  a  big  problem   in  rural  communities  where                                                              
applicants want  a community that supports their  lifestyle rather                                                              
than a Peace Corps type of opportunity.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
She said that  most public health nurses are  government employees                                                              
so there isn't  a lot of flexibility in either  benefits or salary                                                              
negotiations. That  is difficult in a competitive  job market. She                                                              
suggested  that  being  able  to   offer  bonuses  would  increase                                                              
recruitment.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. DAVIS  informed members  that based on  a federal  effort, the                                                              
Nurse  Reinvestment Act,  as of  April 1,  public health  facility                                                              
nurses  were  included   in  a  federal  nursing   education  loan                                                              
repayment program.  "This is the best  news we've had in  the last                                                              
25 or 30  years. They have  received three applicants as  a result                                                              
of  that change  and they  hope that  will  continue to  stimulate                                                              
applicants to work for public health.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
She said the University's plan to  educate more nurses is Alaska's                                                              
best  long-range solution,  but in  the near  term the  department                                                              
needs to  recruit aggressively. They  need stimulation  for health                                                              
careers in the schools and it needs  to be more than an incidental                                                              
exposure. Alaska needs a government  personnel system that is able                                                              
to  respond  to  changing  market  forces  and  steep  competitive                                                              
situations  for  nursing  positions. The  state  needs  continuous                                                              
recruitment,  not  just  vacancy based  recruitment  and  flexible                                                              
salary  options to  be able  to provide  some  incentive for  very                                                              
experienced nurses to bring their experience into the workforce.                                                                
She noted that  talk of budget cuts and hiring  freezes definitely                                                              
affects  recruitment  for  nurse   positions  and  also  makes  it                                                              
difficult for other  nurse employers in Alaska  to attract nurses.                                                              
She said, "We become not a very attractive  economic environment."                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DAVIS told  members that  the last  time there  was a  hiring                                                              
freeze in the state, public health  nurses were actually exempted,                                                              
but it  stalled their applicant pool  for about two  years because                                                              
their spouses found it difficult to find jobs, as well.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:10 p.m.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR.  NICHOLAS   KOLETTI,  Medical  Director,   Alaska  Psychiatric                                                              
Institute (API), supported  Ms. Davis' comments. He  said he would                                                              
offer the following  comments to specifically address  the nursing                                                              
shortages at API.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Today at  API one  out of five  of our lying  registered                                                                   
     nurse positions  are vacant.  We have lost eight  nurses                                                                   
     alone since  January of this  year. Currently,  10 full-                                                                   
     time  registered  nurse  positions  are  vacant  and  in                                                                   
     addition they  have three registered nurse  positions on                                                                   
     extended family  or medical  leave due to their  on-the-                                                                   
     job  injuries. It  would be  impossible  to cover  API's                                                                   
     inpatient units  24 hours a day, seven days  a week with                                                                   
     our current  pool of nurses  without using overtime  and                                                                   
     we   are   forced   to   use   mandatory   overtime   to                                                                   
     appropriately  staff our  facility. My  need to  require                                                                   
     nurses to work mandatory overtime  has created a vicious                                                                   
     circle.   The   competition   is   fierce   for   nurses                                                                   
     everywhere, so why should a  nurse stay in a job or take                                                                   
     a  job  where  their  employer  requires  them  to  work                                                                   
     overtime when they could make  more money somewhere else                                                                   
     and not be forced to work overtime.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Mandatory  overtime  is  especially hard  on  our  staff                                                                   
     because they can never plan  their lives. They cannot be                                                                   
     sure  day to day  if they  can be  home to cook  dinner,                                                                   
     pick up  their children from  school, attend  the parent                                                                   
     teacher  meeting or go  with friends  to a hockey  game.                                                                   
     You should  know that admissions  to API have  increased                                                                   
     over 50%  in the  past five years  with the stays  being                                                                   
     much  shorter  now  and our  patient  turnover  is  much                                                                   
     higher adding  to increased  stress. Throw in  mandatory                                                                   
     overtime  and you can  see why  we're losing nurses  and                                                                   
     why  we cannot recruit  them. This  problem has  reached                                                                   
     crisis proportion  and we do need help. The  state needs                                                                   
     incentives to recruit and retain nurses.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     There is  no way  to insure that  all the facilities  in                                                                   
     the state can recruit and retain  nurses. The State will                                                                   
     likely need to further increase  nursing salaries. If we                                                                   
     could pay a competitive wage,  we could probably attract                                                                   
     more nurses, thus filling our  vacancies and eliminating                                                                   
     or at least greatly reducing  our reliance on the use of                                                                   
     mandated overtime.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     As a  second point that  has been discussed  by previous                                                                   
     speakers,   Alaska   must  rely   on   its   educational                                                                   
     institutions to help us meet  our present and our future                                                                   
     need for  nurses. Unless  the state  has a large  enough                                                                   
     pool of nursing positions from  which to draw, no health                                                                   
     care facility in Alaska, including  API, will be able to                                                                   
     fill their  vacancies almost regardless of  hourly wage.                                                                   
     While API directly trains almost  100 nursing students a                                                                   
     year,  only a minority  of nursing  students are  really                                                                   
     interested in inpatient psychiatry.  Fewer even then are                                                                   
     committed to the treatment of  API's patients who suffer                                                                   
     from severe and chronic mental  illness. The work at API                                                                   
     is  difficult and  challenging and  the competition  for                                                                   
     psychiatric nurses  is very real. API must  compete with                                                                   
     other Anchorage  and Alaska mental health  providers for                                                                   
     nurses who work in this field.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     API is working  as creatively as we can in  the midst of                                                                   
     this crisis,  but flexibility in our ability  to attract                                                                   
     and retain nurses is clearly  limited. As Ms. Davis just                                                                   
     noted,  the state  is at  a  very profound  disadvantage                                                                   
     compared  to  the  private   sector  in  recruiting  and                                                                   
     retaining nurses.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Finally,  one last  point, there  is one  way that  API,                                                                   
     unlike  any other  hospital or health  care facility  in                                                                   
     the state,  is at a particular disadvantage.  API cannot                                                                   
     stop accepting  patients, because we lack the  number of                                                                   
     nurses to  appropriately staff  a patient unit.  Private                                                                   
     hospitals can  divert a patient or they cannot  accept a                                                                   
     patient if they  lack the necessary number  of nurses to                                                                   
     enable them to open up another  bed. Their mental health                                                                   
     patients  are voluntary  and  private  hospitals do  not                                                                   
     have  to accept  patients if  their unit  is full or  if                                                                   
     they lack the staff. At API,  we can never divert and we                                                                   
     can never  refuse an appropriate patient no  matter what                                                                   
     our  staffing   or  our   acuity  level.  AS   47.30.760                                                                   
     unequivocally  states that  'treatment  shall always  be                                                                   
     available at a state operated  hospital.' This is why we                                                                   
     must mandate  staff overtime  when we have vacancies  or                                                                   
     when staff are  ill. We have no choice. For  that reason                                                                   
     alone we need your assistance  in the making the state a                                                                   
     more competitive employer for nurses.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN STEVENS thanked Dr. Koletti and all the people who have                                                                
come forward to testify today.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:15 p.m.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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SENATOR AUSTERMAN asked what criteria the department uses to deal                                                               
with the growing Asian nursing population.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. SENNER said the Board of Nursing  could best address that, but                                                              
foreign nurses have to pass the same  nursing boards that American                                                              
nurses have to  pass, as well as an English  proficiency test. She                                                              
noted:                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Almost  all  the  countries   are  suffering  a  nursing                                                                   
     shortage at  the same time,  so everyone was  looking to                                                                   
     the Asian Pacific nurses to  try to fill their vacancies                                                                   
     and  Providence  Hospital  recently  made  a  trip  down                                                                   
     there.  So, in fact,  it's gotten  so critical that  the                                                                   
     Philippines  is now  suffering a  nursing shortage.  So,                                                                   
     they've been  threatening to stop the export  of nurses.                                                                   
     So, everyone had  kind of the same idea and  the pool is                                                                   
     close to being exhausted.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  AUSTERMAN asked  how we  accept some  of the  educational                                                              
aspects of other cultures.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. SENNER replied that we do and  explained that nationally there                                                              
is  a  non-profit  group that  reviews  transcripts  from  foreign                                                              
nurses and  tells the State Board  of Nursing what  their training                                                              
is equivalent to in America.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO  said he was  looking at one of  the reports                                                              
from the University  of Alaska/Nursing Education Task  Force and a                                                              
sub-note said that  there are approximately 900  registered nurses                                                              
in Alaska  who are not  in the workforce.  He asked what  kinds of                                                              
programs they are using to try to  lure these people back into the                                                              
workforce or to use them for training.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. SENNER said there was a discrepancy  because a large number of                                                              
nurses (over  6,000) hold Alaska licenses  but do not live  in the                                                              
state. 'Travelers' hold Alaska licenses.  She noted Representative                                                              
Halcro  was  referring  to  a  college  recruiting  survey,  which                                                              
surveyed nurses  at the time of  their licensure in the  year 2000                                                              
when  over 90%  of them  said  they were  working  in the  nursing                                                              
force.  She thought  there was  a conflicting  bit of  information                                                              
there.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR. TINA DELAPP, Director, School  of Nursing, UAA, clarified that                                                              
the  report actually  only recorded  the responses  of the  Alaska                                                              
licensees who  had Alaska zip codes  as their home  residence. So,                                                              
in reality,  the number of respondents  who hold licenses  and are                                                              
not  working in  nursing  in Alaska  is  probably  about 75%.  She                                                              
explained that  licensees are  often long past  the normal  age of                                                              
retirement. Some of  their faculty is well into  their sixties and                                                              
seventies.  Being a  nurse becomes  part of one's  identity  - the                                                              
oldest nurse in Alaska is 92 years old.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
She said there had been attempts  to have RN refresher courses for                                                              
nurses who have been out of the workforce  for a particular length                                                              
of time, but the numbers of nurses  to use it would be so low that                                                              
it wouldn't be cost effective.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[MS. PERDUE commented, but her comment was inaudible.]                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. SENNER said that those nurses  would not go far in filling the                                                              
gap, even if all the 92 year olds would come back.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO  asked for an  example of other  reasons why                                                              
nurses would not come back into the profession.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. DELAPP said there could be lifestyle  issues and other reasons                                                              
that would make it unattractive for  someone to consider accepting                                                              
either full or part time employment in an RN position.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HALCRO asked  what  programs, if  any, were  being                                                              
offered by hospitals to help nurses  cope with the stress of their                                                              
added workload.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR. DELAPP  said she  thought they were  focusing their  energy on                                                              
trying to find people to fill those positions. She explained:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The reality is that part of  the stress is a function of                                                                   
     the  fact  that  nurses  are   forced  in  short-staffed                                                                   
     situations and  the way to correct  that is to  add more                                                                   
     nurses  to the workforce  - to  fill the positions  that                                                                   
     are vacant…so  that they're not  having to care  for one                                                                   
     and  a half or  two times  the number  of patients  that                                                                   
     they  can safely  provide care  to - so  that there  are                                                                   
     three  nurses  to help  [indisc.]  instead  of just  two                                                                   
     nurses -  so that there  is somebody  to do that  one to                                                                   
     one monitoring…. Really the  bottom line is that we need                                                                   
     to get  more nurses into the  workforce - so  that there                                                                   
     is a sufficient  field from which employers  can draw to                                                                   
     fill these vacant positions...                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. REED agreed and added that hospitals  need to be more flexible                                                              
with hours and allow nurses to work  what they want, for example a                                                              
split shift.  They have  lost 25 nurses,  because they  don't want                                                              
mandatory overtime hours, but who might be willing to come back.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS  asked if  she had  any suggestions for  legislative                                                              
action  in  writing  so they  could  work  on  this issue  in  the                                                              
interim.  She asked  for salary  comparisons of  state versus  the                                                              
private sector and the different classifications of nurses.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.   SENNER  replied   that  Representative   Peggy  Wilson   has                                                              
legislation that  deals with reimbursement  for loans and  she has                                                              
copies of  laws that  have been passed  in other states  regarding                                                              
mandatory overtime.  She said  they are trying  to keep  the cycle                                                              
from getting worse, "At API the more  mandatory overtime they have                                                              
to serve,  the more  likely they  are to  leave that facility.  So                                                              
we're trying  to break that bad  cycle that can happen."  She said                                                              
she  also  has  copies  of  legislation  on  nurse/patient  ratios                                                              
enacted by  other states.  The Department of  Labor is  working on                                                              
ergonomic regulations.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MURKOWSKI thanked  all  who participated  and  commented                                                              
that she  was astounded  at some  of the  statistics, for  example                                                              
that 91%  of the workforce  is female.  She noted that  while many                                                              
are making  efforts to get  more individuals into  the profession,                                                              
there is  pay inequity based on  gender, which is a  glaring fact.                                                              
She noted  if she  had a  daughter who  might be  interested  in a                                                              
nursing career, she would advise  her to look at something else at                                                              
this  point. She  liked the  idea of  working with  children at  a                                                              
younger  age to  view this  as a  field  that they  might want  to                                                              
choose  but,  based  on  statistics  right  now,  she  thought  it                                                              
wouldn't look  enticing. She  then adjourned  the meeting  at 3:30                                                              
p.m.                                                                                                                            

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